Q & A on the Rangers’ Top 11 Prospects with Kevin Goldstein from Baseball Prospectus

Baseball Prospectus released their ranking of the top 11 prospects in the Rangers system today and their prospect guru Kevin Goldstein was kind enough to share some extended thoughts on the list and the Texas system in general with me to commemmorate the occasion.

Here is Goldstein’s list:
Five-Star Prospects
1. Neftali Feliz, RHP
2. Justin Smoak, 1B
3. Derek Holland, LHP
Four-Star Prospects
4. Michael Main, RHP
5. Engel Beltre, CF
6. Elvis Andrus, SS
Three-Star Prospects
7. Martin Perez, LHP
8. Max Ramirez, C
9. Taylor Teagarden, C
10. Neil Ramirez, RHP
11. Wilfredo Boscan, RHP

Make the jump for more of Goldstein’s thoughts on the Rangers prospects.

Q1) One’s a lefty who brings it 98, one’s a righty who brings it 101. What, in your mind, makes Feliz so vastly superior to Holland? Is there a downgrade element for you with Holland because he came out of nowhere?

Goldstein: The fact that Holland came out of nowhere plays a tiny role. I won’t deny that. Even talking to Rangers officials, they say “let’s see if he can do that all year.” The huge age difference plays a very big role and Feliz has a much better breaking ball. He has the more complete arsenal. Feliz’s slurve flashes plus at times. He’s got a ways to go. It’s a weird pitch because it’s neither a slider nor a curve and he telegraphs it too much, but it pretty effective and it’s better than Holland’s slider by a long way. With the improvement he made with his changeup after never throwing one before last year, Feliz has a chance to be anything.

Q2) Max Ramirez over Teagarden: Given how much you clearly think of Teagarden’s defensive capabilities and how little you think of Ramirez’s, put Ramirez’s bat in context. Do you think he’s among the best power hitting prospects in the game right now?

Goldstein: Max’s bat is going to play if he can’t catch. I have a lot of questions about Teagarden’s bat and if he’s going to be more than a back up. I think that Ramirez is a .300 hitter with power. He’s probably a DH, but he’s at least a solid Tier-II DH and maybe even better than that.

Q3) I know you talk to a lot of scouts from all over baseball. Which of these 11 evoked the widest range of opinion?

Goldstein: Teagarden. It goes from everyday big league catcher with power, patience and defense to some who just say he can’t hit. There’s a lot of difference of opinion of Andrus, but not as much as Teagarden. Everybody sees that Andrus is going to be an elite defensive shortstop who can handle the bat OK. The question with him is a matter of degree. With Teagarden, it’s pretty severe. Some scouts are convinced he’s never going to be anything more than a .220 hitter.

Q4) Blake Beavan: are people more concerned about his drop in velocity or the fact that he managed to succeed in spite of it while making his pro debut in a full-season league?

Goldstein: It’s not like he got killed by anybody and he would have easily made the list for just about any other team. A lot of people had a hard time believing that he threw 95-96 in high school but he had so much success at 89-90 because his location is borderline special and his movement is outstanding. The slider is ok, not great. Some of the changes DC made with his mechanics probably toned down the slider. His mechanics needed a lot of work and they really did clean them up a lot. His mechanics in high school were wince inducing. He threw across his body and had that recoil. But if his velocity comes back, he’s got a lot going for him. He’s also got a swagger that he uses the right way now.

Q5) Name the player in this system who you think could make the biggest jump this year, whether or not he’s on this year’s list.

Goldstein: I think that there are a lot of really, really good candidates for that and that’s why this system is so great. Beltre in the Cal League will be interesting – going from the worst hitting environment to the best. I think that Michael Main, in spite of moving to the Cal League, could move way up to elite status. The whole Hickory rotation. That group is special.

Q6) Do you hear anything negative about Martin Perez other than the fact that he’s smallish?

Goldstein: The thing about Perez is that he’s so polished at that age. When you think about a Latin American prospect at that age, you think of a thrower instead of a pitcher. Both Perez and Boscan are pretty rare in the respect that they are so nearly complete and have such a strong mental approach right now at such a young age. The question most people have about Perez is just how good is he going to be rather than there’s something wrong with him. I think the Johan Santana comps that people throw around are dangerous. When he has an 80 changeup, then maybe people can talk about Johan. He’s got a great fastball, and a plus-plus curve, but not much of a changeup, but he’s 17 and not many 17 year olds are even fiddling with a changeup.

Q7) Who is a reasonable MLB comp for Julio Borbon?

Goldstein: Hard to say. I like Julio, but he’s a leadoff man with leadoff skills but without a leadoff man’s mentality. Julio Borbon has tremendous plate coverage and that’s almost a negative for him. Even though he can do something with a pitch, it would probably be better for him if he’d learn to consistently work counts a little more. I know it improved in the AFL, but that’s a change of approach that has to continue.

Q8) In terms of pure tools, where does Engel Beltre rate for you among teenaged outfield prospects?

Goldstein: Up there with anybody. Anybody. Plus raw power. Plus-plus speed. A great arm. I actually think he’s a very good hitter. He has a knack for contact. I know he’s got the issues with the strikeouts and low walks, but 105 K’s in 500 at bats is a tremendous contact rate for an 18 year old in the MWL. He’s a hacker, but he’s not a hack-and-misser. He swings at stuff he shouldn’t swing at, but he still hits them and hits them hard. The other thing I love about Beltre is that he loves being a baseball player and knows who he is – he knows he’s special – but isn’t an obnoxious jerk about it and is will do anything to get better. He’s got the attitude of a star and the will to make it happen.

Q9) Jamey Newberg and I were kicking this around the other day and maybe you can help explain it: What is the significance of “makeup” to you in evaluating prospects?

Goldstein: I was talking to Jim Callis about this other day and we were kicking around #1 busts and in every one of them, there was a makeup problem that caused the disappointment. Professioinal baseball is very, very hard. And no matter how good you are, there’s a huge adjustment going from the best kid in your town or on your team to being just another guy and in a system like the Rangers that’s an issue because the competition in the system is enormous. People can look at spreadsheets and snicker at scouts all they want, but you have to know who has the skill and the desire to keep moving forward. There are reason that some guys get better as they move up and others get worse and fall out of the system and the answer for that is physical ability and mental makeup. It’s huge.

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41 Comments to “Q & A on the Rangers’ Top 11 Prospects with Kevin Goldstein from Baseball Prospectus”
  • Rodney

    What an outstanding interview!

    Thanks MJH.

  • Scott

    Great info, it is nice to get external feedback about the quality of the Rangers system.

  • Tom

    Fantastic stuff Mike. Very exciting times for Ranger fans.

  • Jeff

    Great stuff. A plus conversation driven by plus-plus questions.

  • Ross

    Wow, he sounds higher on some of our guys than most of us are!

  • Reagan

    Wow, what a nice slice of information. It’s always good to hear someone else’s opinion on these kids. Thanks for the interview.

  • Todd Trice

    He really likes the Feliz breaking ball. That is HUGE and something I hadn’t seen others voice.

  • Chris

    Awesome stuff per usual MJH!

  • GhettoBear04

    Great interview! It does make me wonder if the Rangers aren’t rushing the situation with Andrus.

  • t ball

    That was a good read, thanks. Always great to have some comments along with the rankings. It leaves me slightly encouraged about Beltre panning out, but he needs to make some progress this year on plate discipline.

  • Mike Hindman

    Thanks everyone: I’m still feeling my way around what the D Inside Corner audience wants and the more comments the better feel I have. And for those of you out there who read but don’t comment, please chime in. I need to feel you out. Tell me what you want and I’ll do whatever I can to get it for you.

  • Adam

    MJH, can you have Evan check on the status of Kennil Gomez?

  • rob m.

    Commentary behind rankings always helps to put things in context. I read virtually everything you write about the Rangers. Keep up the good work.

  • scoop16

    Great stuff, I’m addicted. Looking forward to pieces during the season, and after the draft I think a recap with outsider opinion,like this, would be great.

  • Jp

    great read! Keep doing it like you have always been.

  • Ed C

    Thanks, Mike and much appreciateion to Kevin. Informed opinions are a treasure to Ranger fans everywhere.

  • DPJ

    Interesting stuff. Goldstein’s comments about Teagarden make you think twice about what the Rangers might have gotten (and still could, perhaps?) from Boston in a trade. But having watched Teagarden late last season, I thought he appeared to handle the bat fine. Also, interesting how much higher he considers Feliz over Holland. Holland has certainly had the better spring so far and has shown the ability to get better as he has progressed in the system. It is good to hear though that Feliz has a decent breaking ball. I thought that was one of his downsides.

  • MA Gunter

    Very nice read, thank you Mike.

  • Ryin A

    Good stuff cheap right there.

    Thanks MJH.

    You and Uncle E keep it comin’.

    Go Rangers!

  • jc

    Great interview MJH!

  • Todd in Chicago

    Wow. Stuff like this already makes Inside Corner that much better than what we got with DMN. Awesome.

  • Matt

    Awesome interview. Love the info about Feliz’s breaking stuff. Any prospect stuff is great. What I’d like to hear about some of the lesser known guys or maybe about some of the relievers in the system with upside.

  • Buddy

    What do we want ??

    Is a weekly or bi-weekly podcast from you and Evan asking too much ???

    I try hard to listen to the Podcast in Arlington thing….but that Morris guy just ruins that one … so maybe you and Evan could bring some sensible version to the starving fans out here.

    Devoted Rangers fan since 1977 !!!
    Always and forever !

  • ChrisR

    wow. I love this stuff. Thanks for making the move.
    For makeup, see “anyone but Matt Bush”

  • Charles

    I want to echo all the kudos above. Great job MJH. As good as some of the other resources are out there particularly Newberg, Lone Star Ball and BaseBall Times in Arlington, this site definitely has a different feel and adds positively to what’s already going on around this club. Given this new leap you guys are taking, I think the podcast format could be huge. It seems to be the next big thing and I think you guys would do an outstanding job with that. I listen to various podcasts on a daily basis and would be first in line to subscribe. Evan’s done a great job with the guys the couple times he’s been on and I think you guys going down that road would be awesome.

  • tomckil

    I have these rapid access buttons on my keyboard, with two allocated to baseball. One is the Rangers MLB homepage, and the other was DMN. Needless to say, the DMN button has been changed to InsideCorner. What do I want? Everything you and Evan do on the Rangers is enormously appreciated. Wish there was an easy reference to check player data like how acquired by Texas, strengths and weaknesses (like what pitches does he throw and how good are they).

  • Maximilian

    Outstanding work. The more Rangers insight I can read up, the better! Keep up the great work!

  • Mike Hindman

    Buddy & Charles: We’ve talked about podcasts and I imagine we’ll get those up and running soon. I’m going to Surprise from the 20th to the 24th. Perhaps we can do one or two while I’m out there if we can figure out the technology to get it done.

  • Jackson

    Mike:

    You and Evan make a difference in Rangers coverage, and, for a few of us, that’s all that counts. You always have. Always will. What I like most is your ability to consistently weave information about the minor leagues and the big league club. Often, the season starts, and those great Rangers prospects drop into oblivion,the traditional media either forgets or ignores them. I like reading about the success or failure of the future, as well as the present.

  • Dirk Diggler

    Great interview — love this type of stuff. Keep it up!

  • A. Stephens, Raleigh NC

    MJH,
    Classic stuff, as usual. Congrats to you and to Evan. This format appears to be perfect for both of you to play to your strengths.

  • Rentz

    nice work as always. very interesting insights

  • fendrman

    Very good interview.

    What about follow-up questions to fill in some of the spots on each guy? Clarifications and elaborations.

    Like Teagarten, the scouts that are down on him. Are they National league, American league, within our division? I don’t know if he would have answered that, but that question popped into my head.
    Max Ramirez – why does everyone rag on his defense? Everything I have seen when he plays is all out and good defensively at catcher, at least backup, which with his bat puts him on most teams.

  • Big Cat

    Re: Engle Beltre

    It seems everytime I read about him he has the scouting report of a top 5 prospect overall in the minors…It really sounds like he has tools on top of tools

    If he comes through on his potential is he a type like Josh Hamilton who will be among the best at his position in the majors? Is his ceiling that high? Who is a good player comparison for him?

  • mdy

    Thanks Mike. Great interview. Keep them coming please! All Rangers all the time.

  • Don in Austin

    Austin (Round Rock) should be interesting in June. The Redhawks are in town from the 22nd to the 25th. Yall come.

  • Mario

    Great interview, please keep it coming Mike.

    Looking forward to reading your observations and evals on the Rangers and especially their prospects.

  • Mattio

    Mike, this is great stuff. Thanks and keep up the good work.

  • Mike Hindman

    Big Cat: I think if Beltre reaches his full potential, you are looking at something like Carlos Beltran or Torii Hunter. He has the potential to be one of the best center fielders in the game, but he’s not going to be a threat to hit 50 homers like Hamilton.

  • C'mon Rangers!!!

    Mike,excellent work!! What I like is how Evan may have a post up, and you may have a post up, and the more input the better.
    For me, along with what you and Evan already do, I like podcast, chats, OT discussions, interviews, Q & A’s, farm futures, game time chat and even post game, and a stroll through the rumor mill when it heats up, anything related to the Great Game.
    Don’t sweat those podcast, it’s easy. Like riding a bike, once you learn you won’t forget.

  • RamJam36

    Great stuff Mike! I am a prospect freak, so anything you have on that is appreciated. Beltre does have a ridiculous set of tools, and he reminds me a lot of an Alfonso Soriano who can play a quality CF.