Comments on: The 200: Only Number that Matters http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/ InsideCorner sports page and blog analyzes Dallas sports teams including the Texas Rangers, Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Mavericks, and Dallas Stars with original reporting, statistical analysis. Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:33:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: midnitewriter http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-622 midnitewriter Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:16:57 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-622 To Gastronome: Listen here, jerk-face... Nah, I'm just kidding. Your point is well taken. I guess while I expected things to be dumbed down in the papers, I thought that the blog only approach meant certain things would be left behind. I did mean it to be light-hearted though. Please forgive my presumptions. And as a fellow Rangers fan, it's good to have you back in the fold. To Gastronome:
Listen here, jerk-face… Nah, I’m just kidding. Your point is well taken. I guess while I expected things to be dumbed down in the papers, I thought that the blog only approach meant certain things would be left behind. I did mean it to be light-hearted though. Please forgive my presumptions. And as a fellow Rangers fan, it’s good to have you back in the fold.

]]> By: NCRF http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-617 NCRF Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:07:43 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-617 @Gastronome: I think midnitewriter is correct that EG doesn't need to spell out WHIP for the readers of this blog, but not because we all know it already, but rather because this IS a blog and is therefor read on a computer where we all have access to Google to quickly look up a statistic we do not recognize. Back when EG was writing for a newspaper, spelling it out was required. Probably just habit for him now. And I don't care that he still spells it out; I just skip over it without thinking about it. @Gastronome: I think midnitewriter is correct that EG doesn’t need to spell out WHIP for the readers of this blog, but not because we all know it already, but rather because this IS a blog and is therefor read on a computer where we all have access to Google to quickly look up a statistic we do not recognize. Back when EG was writing for a newspaper, spelling it out was required. Probably just habit for him now. And I don’t care that he still spells it out; I just skip over it without thinking about it.

]]> By: Evan Grant http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-616 Evan Grant Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:37:15 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-616 @James: Believe you are referring to Park's time with the Dodgers there. He didn't join the Rangers until 2002. Your point, however, is understood: 200 innings by a pitcher doesn't guarantee a winning season for the team, but as Matt mentioned, it would mean stability in the rotation (particularly if more than one guy reached the mark). That stability makes it a lot easier to settle relievers into roles and for hitters to focus on driving in the runner on base instead of figuring out how to put up a big inning. @James: Believe you are referring to Park’s time with the Dodgers there. He didn’t join the Rangers until 2002. Your point, however, is understood: 200 innings by a pitcher doesn’t guarantee a winning season for the team, but as Matt mentioned, it would mean stability in the rotation (particularly if more than one guy reached the mark). That stability makes it a lot easier to settle relievers into roles and for hitters to focus on driving in the runner on base instead of figuring out how to put up a big inning.

]]> By: Matt in Austin http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-613 Matt in Austin Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:15:59 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-613 More than anything, 200 IP from Padilla and Millwood would represent stability in the rotation. If 3-5 struggle and the bullpen gets taxed, we need reliable slump busters in the rotation to allow everything to reset after a couple of consecutive bad starts. More than anything, 200 IP from Padilla and Millwood would represent stability in the rotation. If 3-5 struggle and the bullpen gets taxed, we need reliable slump busters in the rotation to allow everything to reset after a couple of consecutive bad starts.

]]> By: James http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-612 James Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:01:08 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-612 My only counter argument to this discussion is the beloved Chan Ho Park. In 1999, he pitched 194.3 innings, 5.23 ERA, 100 BB, 174 K, 14 HBP, 11 WP. He somehow managed a winning record at 13-11, but the team finished 3rd in the division with a below .500 winning percentage. Just because he pitched a lot of innings, doesn't mean I want that kind of pitcher on my team. oh wait.... My only counter argument to this discussion is the beloved Chan Ho Park. In 1999, he pitched 194.3 innings, 5.23 ERA, 100 BB, 174 K, 14 HBP, 11 WP. He somehow managed a winning record at 13-11, but the team finished 3rd in the division with a below .500 winning percentage.

Just because he pitched a lot of innings, doesn’t mean I want that kind of pitcher on my team. oh wait….

]]> By: Gastronome http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-610 Gastronome Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:35:58 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-610 @midnitewriter; excuse our ignorance, but those of us who are just catching on to what a treat it is to follow a team through the eyes and writing of someone like Evan do need some help when it comes to the basics. I never thought I'd want to cheer on a team to bust 500, but this whole site has me enthused (having crossed over from Nancy's food blog) - I'm even going to go to some games this year (for the first time since before GWB was governor). Talking over my head is admittedly easy at this point, but with a little coaching I hope to catch on by the end of the season. So, to you (midnitewriter) and the other cognoscenti who have happily begun to populate this blog I'm sincerely asking that you help us kids along. Evan doesn't have to be the only coach in the room. By helping us learn our way around you'll also help Evan build his readership, which will help insure the long term viability of his blog (thus insuring that it'll be there long term for you too). Thanks. @midnitewriter; excuse our ignorance, but those of us who are just catching on to what a treat it is to follow a team through the eyes and writing of someone like Evan do need some help when it comes to the basics. I never thought I’d want to cheer on a team to bust 500, but this whole site has me enthused (having crossed over from Nancy’s food blog) – I’m even going to go to some games this year (for the first time since before GWB was governor). Talking over my head is admittedly easy at this point, but with a little coaching I hope to catch on by the end of the season. So, to you (midnitewriter) and the other cognoscenti who have happily begun to populate this blog I’m sincerely asking that you help us kids along. Evan doesn’t have to be the only coach in the room. By helping us learn our way around you’ll also help Evan build his readership, which will help insure the long term viability of his blog (thus insuring that it’ll be there long term for you too). Thanks.

]]> By: Matt http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-609 Matt Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:14:15 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-609 Wait, wait - strikeouts to walks and WHIP don't matter at all? Or are you saying that if a starter is in there for 6 innings, his peripherials are going to naturally be ok (or at least, not too many runs scored against him)? Wait, wait – strikeouts to walks and WHIP don’t matter at all? Or are you saying that if a starter is in there for 6 innings, his peripherials are going to naturally be ok (or at least, not too many runs scored against him)?

]]> By: midnitewriter http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-606 midnitewriter Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:41:56 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-606 Two thoughts. In this day and age, do you really need to spell out what WHIP is? I'd like to think people who seek out a high minded sports blog like this already realize that you aren't looking around for a chair and a lion to tame. And also... I always thought a useful stat to list is Inning Per Start. I never see that on baseball sites but it's something I've always thought is important to look at when judging starters. Two thoughts.

In this day and age, do you really need to spell out what WHIP is? I’d like to think people who seek out a high minded sports blog like this already realize that you aren’t looking around for a chair and a lion to tame. And also…

I always thought a useful stat to list is Inning Per Start. I never see that on baseball sites but it’s something I’ve always thought is important to look at when judging starters.

]]> By: t ball http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-605 t ball Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:39:34 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-605 Josey, only 7 teams got more than 972 IP last year, and 4 of those teams went to the playoffs, I think you picked a good number. With their offense,though, I think they could make the playoffs if they're in the middle of the pack, about 930-940 innings. That would be a 60-70 inning improvement over the injury-ridden 2008 campaign. Josey, only 7 teams got more than 972 IP last year, and 4 of those teams went to the playoffs, I think you picked a good number. With their offense,though, I think they could make the playoffs if they’re in the middle of the pack, about 930-940 innings. That would be a 60-70 inning improvement over the injury-ridden 2008 campaign.

]]> By: Habib http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/12/the-200-only-number-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-604 Habib Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:18:34 +0000 http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/?p=455#comment-604 I don't see anyone of these guys penciled in to even get close to 180. I wish I was the GM and I would trade Fatwood and psychodilla for the best deal I could get. Harrison and Feldman are serviceable guys but no 200 inning guys and McCarthy at best would be a bullpen guy. This season is a lost season til we get Holland and Neftali up here and then followed by Main and others and lets hope they keep on coming every year like flowers in spring. Sir Evan is there any relation with our Main guy and the Mets Main guy? I don’t see anyone of these guys penciled in to even get close to 180.
I wish I was the GM and I would trade Fatwood and psychodilla for the best deal I could get.
Harrison and Feldman are serviceable guys but no 200 inning guys and McCarthy at best would be a bullpen guy.
This season is a lost season til we get Holland and Neftali up here and then followed by Main and others and lets hope they keep on coming every year like flowers in spring.
Sir Evan is there any relation with our Main guy and the Mets Main guy?

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