
Rangers minor league pitching coordinator Danny Clark with star pupil Derek Holland in Clinton last year
Last fall after Rick Adair left the organization to become the pitching coach for the Seattle Mariners, the Texas Rangers entrusted one of the most coveted stables of young, high-end pitching prospects in baseball to Danny Clark, who was named the Rangers’ minor league pitching coordinator after two years as the pitching coach at Class-A Clinton and one with short-season Spokane.
Prior to joining the Rangers organization, Clark spent six years as the baseball coach at Milligan College, an NAIA program in Tennessee where he coached Mark Connor’s son Ryan. Connor arranged Clark’s interview with the Rangers back in 2006.
At different times last year, Adair, GM Jon Daniels and farm director Scott Servais had each told me that they thought Clark was a special coach with a big future, so it wasn’t tough to figure out who would be Adair’s replacement when he left the organization last November.
The man known as “DC” is an energetic, enthusiastic guy who is well liked throughout the organization and is regarded as an excellent communicator. He sat down with Inside Corner over the weekend for a long-ranging Q & A, touching on many of the system’s top pitching prospects.
Inside Corner: Tell us about Mike Kirkman’s turnaround. You were with him in Clinton last year when he seemed to finally get things pointed in the right direction, but he’s obviously taken it to another level this year.
DC: I’m more excited about Michael Kirkman than any pitcher we have right now from the standpoint of everything he’s gone through to get here. The command issues, injuries. He got sent back to extended a few times. Gotta give Keith Comstock a lot of credit for what’s happened with Mike for all the work they put in back in Surprise over the past couple of years.
The big thing about Mike is that he doesn’t back down. He’s a quiet competitor. He’s a country boy and doesn’t say a lot. He’s not going to go out and draw attention to himself, but you lead the Cal League in ERA and strikeouts and that gets you plenty of attention.
We’ve always seen the fastball velocity which is plus for a lefty starter — 92 to 94 — but he’s got total command of it right now with the plus breaking ball that he’s throwing for strikes. I’m a big Kirkman fan. Couldn’t be happier for him.
Inside Corner: Tell me about Michael Main. Certainly from his numbers — across the board — he’s not performing like people thought he would coming out of his outstanding performance at fall instructs.
DC: He just had to learn some lessons the hard way, but he’s starting to get it figured out. He wasn’t commanding his offspeed stuff and his fastball was up way too much. He thought that a thigh-high fastball was down in the zone and he’s learned otherwise. I think struggling a little might be a good thing for him in the long run. Opened his eyes a little bit. He’d never really had the experience of going through a period where he was getting beat up like that. I think it was a real wake-up for both him and Blake.
We’ve finally got Mike moved over to the third-base side of the rubber and that gives him a better angle on his fastball, especially to righties and gives him more room to drop his curve in the zone.
Inside Corner: I remember that there was an effort to move him over to the third-base side of the rubber last year and he resisted it.
DC: I wouldn’t say resisted. I think it just a matter of time before he figured out that it would be a benefit to him.
Inside Corner: Let’s talk about Blake Beavan. There’s been a lot of hand-wringing about his drop in velocity since turning pro.
DC: It’s fine. He was hitting 93 mph [Saturday] night. Remember, he’s just 20 years old.
I’m a big Blake Beavan fan. The thing he’s got that you just don’t see from many guys is total fastball command in the zone. Blake can get it over in any part of the zone he wants whenever he wants. We’re actually having him throw more 4-seamers and getting away from the 2-seamers for now to build some velocity back up and he’s learning he can succeed with that pitch. I’m not a guy who thinks that velocity is the be-all, end-all especially if you have the pitchability that Blake has.
I was there for his complete game and he got through all nine innings in 101 pitches. He just almost never gets out of the zone. Again [Saturday]: no walks and he got through seven in 98 pitches.
Insider Corner: Yoon-Hee Nam is a guy who seems to have come out of nowhere this year. Tell us about his stuff.
DC: Commands an 86-87 mph fastball well but the thing about Nam is he can really spin a curve that kids at that level don’t see very often and he commands that thing too. He’ll get some spot starts, but he’s probably going to stay in the bullpen.
Inside Corner: What are your thoughts on Kasey Kiker’s season so far?
DC: Pleased with his season. We need to see more consistent bite with the curveball, but to do as well as he’s done at this level is excellent. He’s another guy who isn’t afraid of anything and likes to compete.
Inside Corner: I was out here for what was probably his best start of the year and he hit every number on the gun from 77 to 94. Every one. I know that the 89-94 pitches were 4-seamers, the things in the 70’s were curves and the 82-84 mph pitches were changeups, but what is that thing he throws at 87-88 mph? We couldn’t figure out what that was supposed to be.
DC: Well, Kasey occasionally fools around with a 2-seamer when he thinks he needs a ground ball, but he’s not supposed to be throwing that pitch now. We had a visit about that. Sometimes his competitiveness on the mound leads to some things you’d rather not see.
Inside Corner: I’ve heard some good reports on Neil Ramirez coming out of Surprise. Is he close to an assignment?
DC: Yes he is. He went 3 innings, 59 pitches in extended [Saturday], so his pitch counts are getting close to putting him in position for an assignment. I’m told he’s working hard and has his body in shape. That’s the thing we’ve got now: more pitchers who need to be starting than we actually have room for. So many guys we still haven’t assigned. I’m glad Spokane will get going pretty soon.
Inside Corner: What’s the plan for Martin Perez? What good will it do for him to keep beating up on the Sally League?
DC: Well, that’s open for discussion. The big thing is to control his innings. We want him to come in around 110 this year. But he’s just a special player, ability-wise. He can put the fastball where he wants it, and it’s 94. He can drop the curve where he wants it and it‘s a plus pitch. His change is there now. He’s just on another level.
Inside Corner: And he’s got some swagger.
DC: Yeah, he does. Big league swagger.
Inside Corner: Fabio Castillo has made a start or two recently. Were those spot starts or is he going to be moving into the rotation?
DC: Spot starts. He profiles as a reliever. He’s really at his best in two-inning spurts and he’s had some trouble with his delivery that he does a better job of controlling in short work.
Inside Corner: I wanted to ask about Geuris Grullon. I saw him in Surprise and was really impressed. I thought he was a guy with a ton of ability.
DC: Good one. Yeah, he’s got great stuff. The thing about Geuris is that he’s so long that he’s had trouble with staying consistent in his delivery. You’d see him once and say, “wow” and then the next time you’d see him and go “eh” and then the next time it’s “wow” again. You obviously saw one of the “wow” days. But he’s becoming more consistent and he had a very good spring. The best he’s had. He’ll probably break with Spokane.
Inside Corner: Does his body type [about 6'4", 160 lbs] cause the organization to see him strictly as a reliever?
DC: No. Not me, anyway. He’s starting to fill out. With his stuff, I think he’s a starter.
Inside Corner: How is Wilfredo Boscan coming along?
DC: He’s actually scheduled to start on Thursday right now. He’s fine. We’ve just stayed on the cautious side with him.
Inside Corner: In talking to Rick Adair last year, I got the impression that the book on Wilfredo is that he has a plus approach and sort of ordinary stuff. What are your thoughts on his ceiling?
DC: Well, the fastball is 89 or so, but I think that Boscan commands everything so well to both sides of the plate that makes up for it. His upside is big because of that. It’s not all about velocity and he‘s still got some growing to do.
Inside Corner: Is there one guy we haven’t talked about already who you think has made a lot of progress this year?
DC: Joe Wieland. That really isn’t a secret, I guess. Commands all three pitches. He’ll show you sequences of pitches that you don’t see from a kid that age very often. Just an incredibly advanced approach. He’ll double up on the curve, double up on the change. A lot of guys when they get down 2-0 or have to throw a strike you know the fastball is coming. He can bring anything any time. He’s a guy I think you’ll see really take off this year.
Excellent insight, MJH.
Thanks!
Great interview MJH. Did Clark seem to perk up or get extra excited about any of the guys you asked about? Seems like Perez is primed for a huge adavancement in 2010. Did you ask about Feliz and elect to leave it on the cutting room floor?
you inside corner boys are outdoing yourself today. great work all around.
I’m loving it!!!
Mario: Like everyone else, Clark becomes especially excited when the topic of Martin Perez comes up.
Great stuff MJH!
Great interview MJH. Wish you’d asked about all of Kiker’s HBP’s. I think I know the answer but I would have loved to hear DC’s comments.
You really know how to interview baseball people. We appreciate it.
Great interview, thanks to both of you. Please, if he’s willing, talk to him a couple more times this year.
Great interview. I was very curious about Perez, as you were. I had thought that the Rangers were going to strictly limit his pitch count. Perhaps, if and when Beavan goes to AA, we can send up Perez to Bakerfield, and stll keep him at a five inning limit.
Have to love the statement about having more pitchers than there are spots to place them in.
Excellent interview MJH! Unrelated question..Has anyone give more of an expanded explanation for the pitching coach change in Frisco? He was a Nolan hire so I imagine there had to be a BIG reason for it. I wasn’t really impressed with the pitching that I saw there before the change.
One last thought. It says a lot about the depth of pitching in the organization, when the fourth youngest pitcher in AA can throw a three hit shut-out and not even be mentioned in the discussion.
Awesome interview. I hope you (as a journalist) and we (as fans) can continue to get such access and insight. Very informative.
Great stuff. Thanks for bringing other people in the organization into the light. They do so much and get no credit. I appreciate you giving them their due regards.
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Thanks for the new Mike. It’s always good to hear what the organization thinks about some of these kids.
great stuff
Mike,
Its funny, you came away from watching Kiker wondering the same thing – what the heck was that mid 80s thing.
Re/ Perez, that’s a pretty glowing appraisal from your minor league pitching coordinator. Pitchers have seen the bigs at 19. Are we now looking at a possibility that Perez could be a mid-season call up next year?
When I think of a rotation fronted by Holland, Feliz and Perez, I get excited pants. Your’re talking about filling the back end from Harrison (who all of a sudden is throwing 96), McCarthy, Hurley, Feldman, Kiker, Feldman, etc., and that’s pretty ridiculous. This doesn’t even include the Boscans, Povedas, Mains, Murphys, Kirkmans, Brighams, Diamond’s and Hunters of this organization.
I just hope that the ownership situation doesn’t muck this up (and I mean in the other direction — getting somebody in here that thinks he has to make big F.A. splashes — I hate F.A. signings! If I won the lottery, you’d see the worst lawyer in Dallas. I want hungry 22-27 year olds).
didn’t even include Beavan!
MJH, I’m in awe…thx for all you do for Rangers fans!
JLS: Part of the Kiker HBP thing is establishing the fastball inside, of course, but I think that may have also been part of what he meant with “part of Kasey’s competitiveness leads to things you’d rather not see.” Just a hunch.
Pretty shallow interview unless you are looking for info on our 2013 rotation. This reminds me of fans watching a 9th grade football game bragging how these kids will win state four years from now.
I don’t doubt the accuracy of the info, but I am beginning to wonder how we have the best minor league system. All of our talent is under 20 years old.
We have one pitcher in the system that will get a call up to Arlington, Feliz, and he doesn’t make the interview. How about Murray and Diamond?
And before any of you comment that all talent in the minors is under 20 years old, hold your horses.
This is all about projection. How many kids in the minors have 90MPH fastballs? Lots. How many can’t control it? Lots. And we have or share of those.
Jamey Newberg is the only guy I’ve seen ranking our prospects, and most of the top guys are in Low-A or High-A. Accurately, its 7 of the Top 10 prospects.
So can Danny Clark or anyone walk around Bakersfield or Hickory and say with any accuracy what type of major leaguers these kids will be? No he can’t.
Everyone is excited about the 2010 Rangers and most of that is based on minor league talent. Will any of the kids in this interview be on the 2010 squad? Not even a question on it. And if so, follow up with the kid’s impact in his rookie season.
How can you even project Perez to be a mid-season call up next year? You’re joking me right?
I’ll give credit on the Perez has swagger comment. That’s pitching. It isn’t so hard to spot your fastball in Clinton, Iowa. But try spotting it in Arlington with Mark Teixeira at the plate. Oh wait, our hot shot prospect tried that Wednesday night and it ended up in Weatherford. I’d like to see more insight on a kid’s mental makeup. That tells me more about him than a radar reading.
How about his assessment of Tommy Hunter who is pitching tonight? What can we expect?
Spence: I tried to focus on players that most people have heard about but haven’t actually seen. The questions on Kiker was the exception. The question on Kirkman was largely because the interview took place a couple of hours before his first Texas League start and it’s a good story. Sorry you didn’t care for the effort. When did I project Martin Perez as a mid-2010 callup? I recall that I predicted he’d be in Frisco at some point in 2010, possibly opening day.
Spence,
Why is it an issue for you that we have high ceiling prospects deep in the system? It’s been quite a recovery since Hart tore up the lower levels of the organization and I’m glad to see/hear that we have talent throughout. For the record, Newberg has 4 of the top 10 and 11 of his top 20 playing for AA or AAA teams. But your lack of accuracy (even when it’s highlighted) really isn’t the point here…
The point is that we have some organizational depth for that has been recognized nationally (BP, BA, ESPN, etc.)and locally (I enjoyed the interview Mike). And we have a bit more insight to what the pitching coordinator is seeing in some of these prospects.
I agree with the point that DC is expected to praise his own players and its always good to balance local reports with the comparatives that you only get from reporters who look across organizations. That said, why trash Mike for providing us with the organization’s take on it’s own players? I enjoy knowing what the coaches see in these pitchers and hearing a bit about the depth in our system. Which is exactly the point, isn’t it???
No one can accurately predict who will put it all together to succeed in the bigs. Turning pitching prospects into major league contributors or stars is a game of numbers and talent so having organizational depth is critical to our success. A few will make it. A few will wash out. I few will figure it out after they land in a new organization. What I get out of this interview is that we have good reason to believe that we’ve got enough good arms in the system to overcome the odds and put a really good rotation in Arlington – not just next year but well after that.
Mike – perhaps you can write a new report series titled, “Mike’s Report On Players Who May Be On The Cusp of Filling In If A Current Major Leaguer Goes Down Or In A Year If We Lose One To Free Agency Report.” Kinda catchy don’t ya think? Or perhaps you can give us hourly updates on Neftali Feliz (since we never get to hear about him). In either case, as long as Spence out there, you know you’ve always got an audience of at least one.
excellent article,seemed to touch on almost all the players i had questions about.
Mike – I thought you did a great job on this interview. It was nice to hear that Clark was considered “special” by folks within the organization BEFORE Adair left.
@spence: things I learned in this interview that I hadn’t seen anywhere else:
1. Kirkman is legit.
2. Main is learning his lessons (some reluctantly) and is on the verge of turning it around.
3. Beavan is fine, great control and they expect his velocity to increase.
4. Nam’s success is mostly because of his great curve that kids at his level haven’t seen much of (which means don’t get too excited).
5. Kiker has a nasty streak.
In other words, you are entitled to your own opinion, but I think Mike did a great job! He certainly gave me the info that I wanted!