Ask Sports Sturm: All-Or-Nothing

chris-davisAfter Chris Davis’ Tuesday performance of the 2-HR, 2-K variety, I was sent this email by Tim in Bedford:

Sturm-

Is Chris Davis the biggest All-or-Nothing guy in Major League Baseball? It seems like it either a HR or a strikeout with this guy, and while I enjoy the good…I do wonder about that bad.

Tim

Thanks, Tim. This is a topic I have become interested in with the plight of Chris Davis this season. He is someone I certainly root for, because I enjoy watching him play.

But, the amazing All-or-Nothing discussion is one worth looking at.

First, upon searching this overall concept on google, I found a Sports Illustrated story from Tom Verducci from July, 2000, on the topic:

Get a whiff this. If Marlins centerfielder Preston Wilson keeps striking out at the rate he did over the first half of the season, he will fan nearly as many times in one year than Hall of Famer Nellie Fox did in his 19-year career. On track for 215 punchouts (Fox K’d 216 times), Wilson finally seems to have found something he can’t miss: Bobby Bonds’s record of 189 strikeouts in 1970. Wilson was hitting .260 and whiffing .350. The likelihood of setting such a notorious record, however, troubles Wilson, 25, and the Marlins not at all. “Oh, I fully expect him to break it,” Florida manager John Boles says.

“I don’t worry about that,” Wilson says. “I’d rather set the strikeout record and help the team win by driving in runs than just go up there and try to cut down on strikeouts. That would be selfish.”

Ho, hum. A hundred strikeouts, one of the last great taboos of hitting, has gone mainstream. No one blanches at a 100-whiff season, a mark of dishonor only a decade ago. With the boom in home runs has come the acceptance of the strikeout as their tariff. “It’s the price you pay,” says Wilson, who is on pace to hit 35 homers and drive in 116 runs-career highs.

Last season 26 of the 45 players who hit 30 or more homers also struck out at least 100 times; overall 71 batters hit the century mark in K’s. Despite all the advances in video analysis and instruction, hitters whiff more now than ever before—there have been 13.07 strikouts per game this year, or one out of every four outs. Wilson is the extreme example of today’s grip-it-and-rip-it batting culture. Baseball is producing better sluggers, not necessarily better hitters, who’ve made the strikeout shameless. Boles, for instance, has no plans to curtail Wilson’s playing time in September if the record is within reach.

“He can hit the ball as far as anybody and he’ll be an impact player,” Boles says. “I’d rather accentuate those positives than worry about a negative.”

In 2009, Chris Davis is hitting .203, and he is whiffing .449! 71 strikeouts in 158 at bats is not bad; it is historic.

Now, his home run rate is actually up from 2008. Last season, he hit a home run 5.7% of his AB’s, and this year it is up to 7.6%. Texas has played 46 games this season, and Davis has played in 45. At this rate, you can project 35+ Home Runs, and well over 210 strikeouts. It is a phenomenal all-or-nothing season.

A few questions I have about Chris Davis, as we try to put this in perspective:

1. Has he always struck out like this? Is this just who he is? What did he do in the minor leagues?

According to Firstinning.com , Chris has always struck out, but nothing like this.

Year Level K Rate
2006 -A Spokane 23.2%
2007 A+ Bakersfield 29.4%
2007 AA Frisco 21.6%
2008 AA Frisco 21.8%
2008 AAA OKCity 22.8%
2008 MLB Texas 27.8%
2009 MLB Texas 41.8%

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That certainly is a jump in 2009. It indicates what we all know: That major league pitchers will figure out your weakness, and then pound it until you prove it is not a weakness. 41.8% of plate appearances, and 44.9% of AB’s, is a stunning number. But, let’s also remember that this is fewer than 200 AB’s, and one that will hopefully improve with coaching and hard work.

Please also understand that those strikeout rate numbers do not consider the good of his hitting (the run production that got him here in the first place) which never featured a slugging percentage below .534 at any level of his professional career. Nor, does it consider his above-average defense at first base.

2. Isn’t it true that many A.O.N. batters exist in major league baseball, and is it that big of a deal if the HR and run production totals are there?

This is kind of a “beauty in the eye of the beholder” question. Thanks to our valued reader, JMelton, here are the AON leaders from 2008 – Please keep in mind that AON% is the HR% + the K%:

Rank Name HRs HR% Ks K% AON%
1. Cust, Oak 33 6.9% 197 41% 47.8%
2. Shoppach, Cle 21 6.0% 133 37.8% 43.8%
3. Reynolds, Ari 28 5.2% 204 37.8% 43.0%
4. Howard, Phi 48 7.9% 199 32.6% 40.5%
5. Pena, TB 31 6.3% 166 33.9% 40.2%

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And, then here is Chris Davis, 2009:

Name HRs HR% Ks K% AON%
Davis, Tx 12 7.6% 71 44.9% 52.5%

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As you can see, a 52.5% All-or-Nothing rate is off the charts. But, can Rudy Jaramillo and the gang make his bad numbers shrink and keep the good numbers where they are? I would imagine it will start with working on hitting the fastball, which is starting to look like a real issue. But, I am out of my depths on the fine art of hitting. All I know is the numbers show that he is setting a new standard for the All-Or-Nothing stat.

Work in progress, folks. Work in progress.

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38 Comments to “Ask Sports Sturm: All-Or-Nothing”
  • Jon

    “But, can Rudy Jaramillo make his bad numbers shrink and keep the good numbers where they are?”

    Evan,

    Follow up question. Seriously.

    Are the Texas Rangers the biggest All-or-Nothing team in Major League Baseball? It seems like it either a HR or a strikeout with this team, and while I enjoy the good…I do wonder about that bad.

    I feel that poor Chris Davis is just the poster boy for an organizational problem. He is taking the heat off of several others in the line up who are currently not producing.

  • Jericho

    Outstanding analysis. However, the Rangers as a whole are not really hitting well situationally and the discipline exhibited last year has vaporized as Ranger hitters are not going deep into counts. So I raise the question, is Rudy the most overrated and overpaid hitting coach in the big leagues? I think more scrutiny has to be put on the hitting coach.

  • Wes

    Evan, as noted by Jon, it would be interesting to see where the Rangers rank in AON% as a whole compared to the rest of the league. Something tells me it would be near the top. Also, if you somehow factored in (in a negative way) on base percentage, it gets worse for Chris and the Rangers.

  • JoseCardenal

    As I continue to read on this topic, I’m more and more amazed by the comment “He can’t hit the fastball.” Huh?? This is not something you read about power hitters, is it??? Its not like he’s swinging at sliders in the dirt. They are friggin’ FASTBALLS!

    Help! Help! Help! What the hell is going on here???

  • Evan Grant

    @Jon, Wes: This sounds like a call for Big John Melton. Big John, are you out there?

  • Jed E.

    Evan or Sports Sturm: I do not believe this team has true leadoff hitter on the roster. Would you agree?

  • Jed E.

    The problem with Davis is that his weakness is one that a ML hitter should never have:hitting a fastball. We have all seen many careers ruined because a guy couldn’t hit offspeed stuff, but a fastball?

  • mikedime

    Nice job, elephant head.

  • Bob Sturm

    It’s “elephant ears”, sir.

  • mikedime

    Sorry, bob.

  • Dan

    A slight quibble, but I think the %s should be based on plate appearances, not ABs. I’m sure it doesn’t make much of a difference in the rankings, but still.

  • Dan

    Ah, me = FAIL. I see that you did use plate appearances.

  • Dan

    f me again…looks like you used ABs one time and PAs another time.

  • Da Blade

    As we debate on what “to do” about Chris Davis, there is something else to consider. If you cannot live with his current state for the remainder of the season, and if reassignment to the minors isn’t deemed a real solution, then do you know consider…

    …a trade?

    Let me be the first official member of the Aubrey Huff bandwagon. This dude is in the last year of his contract with Baltimore. The Orioles are going nowhere in that AL East. He’s much more serviceable than current-state Chris Davis. Would Baltimore do a straight-up trade? Would you have to dip into your minor-league stockpile (and I would say dipping past your top 20 prospects – maybe number 21?)

    Help, Sports Sturm!

  • J. Blake

    Ummm, if you’ll go on the DMN Rangers blog you’ll notice Richard Durrett wrote this same story, no I hate to say that, he wrote a better entry on the same topic yesterday.
    The comparison to other all or nothing players is somewhat irrelevant because those other guys are developed players while Davis is basically a rookie.

  • AJM

    Bob — I don’t think this is a matter of pitchers figuring out what Chris Davis’s weakness is. Mark McLemore said something similar the other night, that this is teams adjusting to Davis, and now he has to adjust to them.

    Teams aren’t pitching Davis any differently than they pitched him last year when he was having success. He’s just not hitting pitches he was hitting last year.

  • Jon

    Jericho

    “So I raise the question, is Rudy the most overrated and overpaid hitting coach in the big leagues?”

    Since you raised the question that I only hinted at……….

    There is a guy who goes by mhayden on the texags.com baseball other board who has analyzed Ranger’s hitting over the years and in particular hitting away from TBIA. This question comes up on a regular basis.

    Noting that some do strongly disagree with his analysis – the answer to your question is probably, most probably – yes.

    The most interesting (and confusing) thing about Rudy is that while statistics show him to be very over rated; the players, including some very good hitters, swear by him.

  • bill

    great stuff sturm

  • JohnnyMel

    Evan,

    American League
    Name – %AON

    Texas – 27.8%
    Tampa Bay – 25.9%
    Cleveland – 25.3%
    Boston – 23.7%
    Chicago – 22.9%
    Minnesota – 22.4%
    New York – 22.3%
    Kansas City – 21.9%
    Detroit – 21.7%
    Seattle – 19.9%
    Oakland – 19.8%
    Baltimore – 19.5%
    Los Angeles – 19.4%
    Toronto – 18.8%

  • Bob Sturm

    That is quick work, Johnny. I am tempted to break out 2004-08 sometime really soon. Very interesting team data that calls into question if the offensive philosophy is on target – and the building of the roster to carry out said philosophy.

  • JohnnyMel

    Bob,

    How ’bout now?
    Year HR SO %AON
    2009 77 370 27.8%
    2008 194 1207 24.5%
    2007 179 1224 25.3%
    2006 183 1061 22.0%
    2005 260 1112 24.0%
    2004 227 1099 23.6%
    2003 239 1052 22.8%
    2002 230 1055 22.9%
    2001 246 1093 23.6%
    2000 173 922 19.4%
    1999 230 937 20.7%
    1998 201 1045 22.0%
    1997 187 1116 23.1%
    1996 221 1041 22.1%
    1995 138 877 20.7%
    1994 124 730 21.4%
    1993 181 984 21.1%
    1992 159 1036 21.6%
    1991 177 1039 21.3%
    1990 110 1054 21.3%

  • Bob Sturm

    OK, Jedi. Since you obviously have skills, how about AL Ranking on those years?

  • JohnnyMel

    American League
    Name – %AON

    Milwaukee – 27.6%
    Florida – 27.4%
    Washington – 26.6%
    Arizona – 26.0%
    Colorado – 25.9%
    Chicago – 25.8%
    San Diego – 24.2%
    Philadelphia – 23.4%
    Pittsburgh – 23.1%
    Cincinnati – 22.9%
    San Francisco – 22.7%
    Los Angeles – 21.2%
    St. Louis – 21.2%
    Atlanta – 20.6%
    Houston – 19.9%
    New York – 19.2%

    Slightly higher on average due to the lack of DH.

  • djcahill

    Another interesting CD stat.

    Hits 32
    Total Bases 72.

    Average Total Bases per Hit (TB/H) 2.25.

    Essentially his average hit is a little more than a double.

  • Jon

    “Very interesting team data that calls into question if the offensive philosophy is on target – and the building of the roster to carry out said philosophy.”

    Bob

    Is it the roster that needs changing or the hitting coach?

  • Bob Sturm

    Jon, I do not disagree with that premise at all, but I also have to tip-toe through the many minefields of such a discussion carefully and with evidence in hand.

  • Jon

    Bob

    And that goes back to my comment that the players, including some very good hitters, swear by him.

    It is very, very strange. Stats guys hate him. Players love him.

    Any idea why?

  • JohnnyMel

    Bob,

    Team Year AON RankSO Rank
    Texas 2009 1 1
    Texas 2008 4 4
    Texas 2007 2 2
    Texas 2006 7 5
    Texas 2005 1 2
    Texas 2004 3 4
    Texas 2003 2 5
    Texas 2002 3 6
    Texas 2001 2 5
    Texas 2000 13 12
    Texas 1999 9 11
    Texas 1998 6 8
    Texas 1997 5 6
    Texas 1996 5 5
    Texas 1995 8 6
    Texas 1994 2 3
    Texas 1993 3 3
    Texas 1992 2 2
    Texas 1991 3 3
    Texas 1990 2 1

  • jls

    Players love him because he’s a swing mechanic. He can fix problems in terms players relate to. He wasn’t just a good hitting coach when he came to Arlington. He was good in the minors when he worked with J. Gone, Palmer, Sierra, etc. The guys he worked with when he went to the Astros loved him too. Bagwell won a ROY with him, hitting in the Astrodome…where homeruns went to die.

  • JohnnyMel

    Formatted so you can read it:

    AL Ranking

    Team Year AON SO
    Texas 2009 1 1
    Texas 2008 4 4
    Texas 2007 2 2
    Texas 2006 7 5
    Texas 2005 1 2
    Texas 2004 3 4
    Texas 2003 2 5
    Texas 2002 3 6
    Texas 2001 2 5
    Texas 2000 13 12
    Texas 1999 9 11
    Texas 1998 6 8
    Texas 1997 5 6
    Texas 1996 5 5
    Texas 1995 8 6
    Texas 1994 2 3
    Texas 1993 3 3
    Texas 1992 2 2
    Texas 1991 3 3
    Texas 1990 2 1

    *AON – All or Nothing Percentage
    *SO – Strike Out Percentage

  • JohnnyMel

    Or not

  • Evan Grant

    @JohnnyMel: You rock. Want a job as official InsideCorner stat guru? It doesn’t pay much in the way of money – actually nothing at all – but think of how fulfilled your life will be.

  • JohnnyMel

    Evan,

    Sign me up!

  • becca

    can i be the dumb ass that asks what AON means?

  • becca

    by the way my brain is not a stats brain. so please don’t make fun.

  • becca

    is it all or nothing? cause that seems too easy.

  • Junior

    becca – you hit the nail on the head. All or nothing. Percentage of HRs as opposed to SOs

  • rickx500

    Yes JohnnyMel very good info and charts Thanks a lot… I always thought the “home run hitters” got the BIG $$$ look at what the Nats gave Dunn. Plus Davis hit .275 last year, we all are just looking at a very small sample ??? I see Davis adjusting back to the Pitchers as Mclemore suggested. Anyway good luck to Mr. Davis!!!