Comments on: Armchair GM Roundtable: Trade Deadline Edition

By: back back back

back back back — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:59:53 +0000

Too much to give up for just a season and a half of Halladay, who would be gone to the highest bidder after 2010, book it.

Why not wait til the offseason, ink a FA, and keep the prospects?

By: JCD

JCD — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:18:47 +0000

I hope the Phillies get Halladay because that means they leave Lee alone. A deal for Lee doesn’t scare me nearly as much as a monster deal for Halladay. Evan is talking about Lee’s bad Opening Day start this year in Arlington, but you’re forgetting two things. (a) Halladay has a career of being bad here and (b) we can make an excuse for Lee’s performance rather easily. After retiring Kinsler, Young, Hamilton and Cruz on 11 pitches to start the game, Lee was NAILED with a wicked liner off the bat of Hank Blalock. Has everybody forgotten this? Four of the next five batters had hits, giving the Rangers a 4-0 lead, and I have to believe the injury had something to do with it.

On top of that, Lee has made six starts against the Rangers’ potential playoff opponents this year: New York, Boston and Detroit. EVERY ONE of them were quality starts, giving up 11 earned runs in 42 innings. Take away Lee’s 7-run outing in Texas and he hasn’t given up more than four runs in any game this year – and his ERA dips under 3.00.

Cliff Lee is a great pitcher on a bad team and the Rangers should go get him.

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:20:30 +0000

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By: obagain

obagain — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:45:58 +0000

Scooper, I know you wouldnt trade those guys but you wont get halliday with your package, they will want alot more.
I am not putting words in your mouth, just giving opinions on what it will realistically take to land halliday.
Other than millwood going back to his old version, all the other things are real or very realistic.
McCarthy cant be counted on.
Harrison may never be the same and if he is it will take 1 1/2 years.
Padilla, hank and jones will all be gone after this year.
So the rotation without a trade will be
millwood
feldman
holland,
we will have to find 2 starters to fill out the rotation.
We have guys that could fill that roll but none have stepped forward yet.

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:39:56 +0000

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By: scooper

scooper — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:32:00 +0000

…and if we get Halladay and the Angels get Lee, I’d say we win!

By: scooper

scooper — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:28:30 +0000

@obagain: you are putting words in my mouth – I never said Ross, Teagarden or Moreland. On the blog post of Evan’s that asks for a specific offer, this is what I said:
Feliz, Smoak, Poveda, Ramirez and a low-level (low class A or below) pitching prospect not named Ross or Perez.
I also have in there that I would NOT trade both Smoak and Moreland (so I would trade Smoak because I can get more for him) and that I think Moreland will be our DH down the road.
I also said that I would trade Feliz over Holland because I think Holland can become an Ace and I don’t think Feliz will.
Also, you make a lot of assumptions that I simply don’t agree with! This is simply my opinion. You are more than welcome to your, also! What I don’t appreciate is you throwing out crap and acting like that is what I said.

By: obagain

obagain — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:56:37 +0000

scooper, on the money, if we keep using the farm to fill holes we can be cheap and competitive.

By: RA

RA — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:55:44 +0000

Don’t much understand the interest in Willingham. Andruw Jones has been about as productive even hitting .220. I’d rather bet on Jones improving his average over the second half. If he hits .250, he’ll be as good as Willingham.

By: obagain

obagain — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:54:46 +0000

scooper, so you give up feliz, smoak, ross, TT and moreland.
Halliday walks after a year and a half, feliz is a top closer in baseball then, smoak is hitting 300 with 30 hr and 130 rbi, ross is a year away from being a top of the rotation guy and TT is his normal self.
Are you happy you gave all that up for a 1 1/2 year rental?
Now lets say millwood is the old millwood when he returns, harrison doesnt pitch until late next year and is ineffective, McCarthy never pans out, davis is never the same when he is recalled, hank walks after this year as does jones.
Padilla is gone after this year.
What do you do for 2 starter to go with halliday?
Who plays 1st?
Who is your DH?
These are all real possibilities.
Do you really want to give up what we have for the hope that something special happens?
What is we get halliday and the angels get lee?