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The Depot: Rangers-A’s Live Game Blog, News, Notes and Free Award-Winning Cheese Samples

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A’s 0 0 0 5 1 1 1 0 0 8

flyingfish3Sorry for the lack of homer pool tonight. We had a little emergency in the Cornerian world. All is OK now, but the Corner had to help out SideDish tonight. Don’t worry, we got some really good cheese and wine for helping out. Bells and whistles coming up.

9:12: In case, you weren’t reading earlier, I suggested there are still some interesting things worth watching over the final 12 games of the season.

9:22: According to Reuters, three groups have emerged as the front-runners to purchase the Rangers. I know very little about two of them, but would still hazard a guess that the group represented by Chuck Greenberg is worth watching. Why? Greenberg helped negotiate the deal that allowed Mario Lemieux to purchase the Pittsburgh Penguins. Might Greenberg team up with Nolan Ryan in a deal that would annually earn Ryan some “sweat equity” in the team.  Here is a little background on Greenberg when he first got into the sports ownership business.

9:31: I am starting to like this Greenberg fellow. Love the promotions.

10:26: Elvis Andrus now has 30 steals. Leads team. Ian Kinsler, who is off tonight, is at 29.

12:11: Rangers go to their best defensive alignment for the bottom of the ninth. They have to learn to make that move for the ninth inning  at home, too.

12:20: Well, the Rangers are 6.5 back and I’m gassed from serving cheese and sipping wine (life is sooooooooo rough) at the SideDish event tonight, that I’m calling it a night. Who knows, maybe Jack Daddy is ahead of us all. If the Rangers can cut the lead by another 1.5 games by the end of the weekend, at least the first night of the final week of the season will be important. And then maybe the night after that. And so on and so on.

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246 Comments to “The Depot: Rangers-A’s Live Game Blog, News, Notes and Free Award-Winning Cheese Samples”
  • Ryans Dad

    That’s ok, I think we started our own home run pool

  • Ranger_Rick

    Nice way to start the eveing… some wine, cheese and a run in the first.

  • Tom B

    “Evan is a hero, Evan is a hero, the regiment proclaimed…..”

  • scooper

    we have an abbreviated version of the Home Run Pool on Nancy’s post saying that you were on the way.

  • Ranger_Rick

    I love the way Marlon always hustles. I sure hope we find a way to keep him here.

  • Ryans Dad

    What’s the deal with everyones retina falling off? It’s an epidemic!

  • Ranger Fan

    It included me saying that I wished Pudge wasn’t playing, which I never thought I’d see the day that happened.

  • Ranger_Rick

    Well, Blalock is trying to increase his value a bit.

  • Ryans Dad

    If the Yankees have secured a playoff spot but not yet the division, doesn’t that mean that the Rangers have in fact been eliminated from the Wild Card Race?

  • Ryans Dad

    Disregard that idiotic question that I just asked. So Stupid!

  • Ruffian

    Ryans Dad – It just means that the Rangers can”t catch the Yankees. They could mathmatically catch the Red Sox/Angels.

  • Ruffian

    Consider it disregarded…

  • Ryans Dad

    Yeah, I thought it through and realized the error of my thinking. Thanks though

  • becca

    i’m glad hank’s ok, but falling in the dugout always makes me chuckle.

  • Ranger_Rick

    Nice start for Hunter.. he so deserves a spot guaranteed next year as well as Feldman

  • becca

    i meant “into” the dugout. chuckles.

  • scooper

    You don’t want to “guarantee” young guys a starting spot. A little competition won’t hurt them at all.

  • becca

    i’m not sure what the contact is like, but is benson back next year?

  • Ranger_Rick

    I don’t think so, I believe he was on a one year deal

  • Jack Daddy

    craziest and most frustrating part of the past 10 days? With just two more wins, we would be sitting in a pretty decent spot. And its not beyond the realm of possibility that we go into Monday 4 back (win the next 5 and the Angels lose 2 of 3 this weekend).

    I know its nuts, but still…

  • Ranger Fan

    Oh gosh…I hope Benson is not back.

  • becca

    @rangers fan, that’s kinda where i was going with that.

  • Ranger Fan

    So after all this rookie hazing costume talk…I’d like to see a charticle with the player’s name, costume and the picture. I’d buy a newspaper to see that.

  • Ranger Fan

    @becca…I think that’s a common home of all who know and love the Rangers! haha…ps- glad you’re back. I was asking where you were last night!

  • Ranger Fan

    @Evan: So apparently there was talk on the post-game show last night that “people close to the team” think Kinsler wants out and there’s a good chance he gets traded. Please tell me this is knee-jerk or someone misinterperting what was said. Do you see it that way? Clearly we have no one coming to replace him and that would be a giant step back. Calm my fears!

  • Ryans Dad

    What is the Rangers longest streak this season so far?

  • Ranger_Rick

    Wasn’t it 7 games?

  • becca

    i thought they made it to the teens. i thought i was at a game and it was maybe the 11th or 13th win in a row. i wish i could remember stats.

  • Ranger Fan

    They were sizzling in May…but for some reason I think I heard the longest streak was 8. Not for sure though.

  • DC

    Can any of you get rangers or mlb web sites to open ?

  • becca

    mine opened.

  • Ranger_Rick

    @DC no problems here.

  • Lamar in PA

    I think there was a longer home winning streak (probably what Becca’s thinking of), but I’m pretty sure the longest total win streak was 7.

  • becca

    oh. that’s what it was.

  • DC

    Both sites crash my web browsers.

  • DC

    Strange

  • Evan Grant

    @Ranger fan: Heard nothing of the sort regarding Kinsler. Sounds like people putting a lot of disconnected things together and creating a rumor.

  • Doug

    I love what Borbon bring to this team. He opens the game with a single, and before you know, he’s scoring without another safe base hit.

  • becca

    yeah, hank’s playing for a contract next year. which when it’s good for the rangers, i can’t complain.

  • Ranger Fan

    @Evan: Good to hear. There’s no denying he’s frustrated and struggling, but there’s too much good going on here to jump ship. I don’t think he’s that guy.

  • Ryans Dad

    Evan, have you heard any news on the impending contract negotiations with my favorite batting coach of ever? What are the chances he stays?

  • Ranger_Rick

    I couldn’t beleive that the Rangers would even consider trading Kins for anything. He is too valuable to this team right now.

  • becca

    i just wish hank was consistant. and there is the argument that to be consistant you have to play everyday. but he has to know his role. and that isn’t one of an everyday player.

  • scooper

    Hank wasn’t consistant when he was playing every day. That’s why they had no problem bringing Chris back.

  • becca

    and this not-knowing the owner is absolutely mind blowing right now. because so many players’ (and coaches’) futures depends on what kind of money they can bring. it’s all just speculation until that part is figured out.

  • scooper

    What Hank is doing right now is what he should (but doesn’t) do all the time – he is using the whole field, especially after he gets 2 strikes.

  • becca

    @scooper: i totally agree. which is why i have been down on him this year. he turns it on when it seems it’s absolutely necessary, but doesn’t stay with it. it seems lazy. or like he doesn’t care. and that’s just a fan’s point of view, not necessarily a big baseball brain’s point of view.

  • RAT

    Figured I’d start watching the Rangers… Tommy Hunter just gave up a run, should I change the channel again? Am I bad luck?

    :(

  • RAT

    Did Wash get a hair cut?

  • Rain 4 the Parade

    @ Jack Daddy– You are a total dumb azz if you are so ignorant to even fathom the possibility that the Rangers have a chance to make the post season.

  • RAT

    Rain come in from the DMN blog?

  • scooper

    Let me see … we haven’t been eliminated, so I suppose there is still a minute chance, huh?

  • Ryans Dad

    Ok, I vote Rain off the island. Isn’t there a Red Sox game you could go watch on ESPN or something?

  • becca

    @RAT: i hope not. i heart his mini/balding fro.

  • scooper

    @RAT: must have. none of ours would act like that.

  • Ranger_Rick

    I guess Hunter is having his first inning now.

  • Win's Dad

    That Ron Washington vote of confidence for Hunter in next year’s rotation is working well.

  • RAT

    Okay, I’ll change the channel, hopefully the Rangers get out of the inning when I do.

  • becca

    i hate mean people.

  • Ryans Dad

    Wow, RAT has a gift.

  • Josey Wales

    Really nice to have a 1B in the line-up every day who has a better OPS than the rookie Andrus.

    Makes quite a difference.

  • Rain 4 the Parade

    The DMN Rangers blog is a sham. Just ask Richard about such.

  • scooper

    @becca: I agree. I’m also not too fond of negative folks.

  • becca

    maybe RAT just hates tommy hunter.

  • Rain 4 the Parade

    Realism?

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: Why would you think someone is negative just because their name is “Rain 4 the Parade”?

  • becca

    i meant to say that maybe RAT is rooting for a benson contract extension. :)

  • RAT

    The Rangers get nervous when I watch them I guess.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    I say “keep the faith”. Yes, it would take a miracle at this point, but when’s the last time Rangers’ fans even had a chance with a week and a half left in the season?

  • Ranger Fan

    What the heck happened…I do a quick chore and we’re now down 5-4???

  • becca

    @RF: ask RAT.

  • Rain 4 the Parade

    The Name has nothing to do with the Rangers, but the Mavericks epic fail vs. Miami.

  • Evan Grant

    @Ryans Dad: There is no word on the Rudy Jaramillo contract situation. I think this will be topic No. 1 for the Rangers to discuss during the offseason. I’ve said this before and remain pretty adamant about it: Jaramillo has flaws as an instructor (every instructor does), but to let him walk away after one sub-par offensive year is just beyond knee-jerk to me.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Evan: I say your note about the Rangers being on pace to break the team record for k’s. This would be the third year in a row (and only three yrs in franchise history) with over 1,200 k’s. Why is it that they have had 3 bad years in a row?

    Is it that the stigma attached to the strikeout is changing, and players don’t worry about it as much anymore?

  • scooper

    @PTRF: this last week hasn’t been fun, but I keep reminding myself that it has been a great season. our guys have experienced a pennant race and that will help in our development (especially the young guys). Our future is bright and I refuse to let the last week or two ruin the season for me.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    *SAW your note*

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: I agree. It’s always easier to be out of it early, and not get your hopes up. However, it has had to be fun to have that nervous feeling and excitement for the whole season hasn’t it? And yes, the experience has to be good for these guys.

  • becca

    elvis just got 31!

  • Evan Grant

    @PTRF:I’d say the stigma attached to the strikeout is changing.

  • becca

    and there it is! if the team hasn’t given up, why should us fans? that’s just respectable fun baseball.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    Thanks, Evan. I agree.

  • becca

    marlon reminded me of andruw chugging it in to home.

  • scooper

    I’m not giving up until we are officially eliminated. And I’ll still have fun after that watching the games. This has been the best season in years, our future is bright, I love watching the young guys. I am a happy Texas Rangers fan!

  • Evan Grant

    @scooper: Love your approach to sports.

  • Ryans Dad

    Wow, this team sucks

  • becca

    the a’s are helping the cause as well tonight.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: great attitude.

  • Ranger_ve

    Must resign Bird. I’ll be really sad to see him go.

  • Win's Dad

    PTRF: Texas led both leagues with more than900 runs scored last year. How does that count as three bad years in a row?

  • Peter Spammons

    @ becca

    You should give up because the Rangers have a 1% chance of making the playoffs. Yes, you should enjoy an albeit late resurgence, but remain cognizant of the fact that in reality the season is indeed over. Unfortunately, statistics are devoid of all emotionality.

  • RAT

    Cool! 8-6, gonna start watching the game again.

  • Ranger Fan

    Completely agree with scooper. All year people have been saying this year is a bonus. Can’t wait for next year. Then all the sudden people start bailing. Not me. This is fun…and I can’t wait for April!

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Win’s Dad: I just meant in terms of strikeouts. Not overall offense. Sorry for the confusion.

  • Tom B

    This is one of those games where the last team to score wins. Hunter is the Hunted.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    Did Josh just say something about Scott Coolbaugh? Isn’t he the coach that got killed by a line drive a couple of years ago?

  • Evan Grant

    @Peter Spammons: Question for you: Why should any of these people give up hope. It’s their hope not yours. I’ve never understood why people want to force their opinions on others. Hey, if you ask my opinion, this team isn’t going to win. But if these folks have hope or want to have hope, why should they ever be shouted down?

  • Evan Grant

    @PTRF: Mike Coolbaugh was killed by a line drive in 2007. His brother, Scott, is a minor league hitting instructor for the Rangers.

  • becca

    thanks, peter. i’m cognizant of the statistical upheaval involving making the playoffs. but not making the playoffs does not negate the fact that this season was a success. and if the team is still playing to win, as a fan, even as they are 99% unlikely to play after next week, i will support them. emotions and math be damned!

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Evan: Thanks. I knew the last name sounded familiar.

  • Ranger Fan

    Ah yes, the Coolbaugh who fixed Chris Davis.

  • scooper

    @evan: thanks. that doesn’t mean that I don’t get frustrated, but this isn’t life and death.

  • Big Tex

    Why is it that the majority of the Rangers players(starting pitchers in particular)are nearly obese? Tommy looks like he mainlines milkshakes. Precose must be be a big player in club house locker rooms.

  • scooper

    I’m with you, becca! Isn’t it a good thing that we aren’t stat geeks? I like numbers just fine, but they aren’t as much fun as baseball!

  • scooper

    @Peter: I believe in miracles! I don’t expect them, but I do believe in them.

  • Ranger Fan

    @Big Tex: I don’t think that question even warrants a response.

  • becca

    milkshakes are delicious, though.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: You just have to look back two years to the Rockies. They won just about every game in Sept to make a miracle run to the WS. If the Rangers go unconscious and win the rest of their games they have a good chance to catch LAA. Is that asking too much?

  • scooper

    @BigTex: I can think of maybe 5 guys that appear to be possibly overweight. and one of those is just stocky, not fat.

  • scooper

    @PTRF: That’s what I mean. It isn’t at all likely, but it is still possible.

  • Peter Spammons

    @ Even
    I agree. I just feel a bit frustrated at the fact that this team, as well as past Ranger teams just fall apart at the most crucial moments. On the other hand, this current roster has talent. I look forward to the good times that WILL ultimately win out in the future.

  • becca

    and shoot, even if it is 100% unlikely, these guys are still playing to win every game they go out to play. as a fan, that’s all you can ask of your team.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: Possible!?! Heck, I just bet my mortgage on it! I have faith! Ok, maybe not.

  • scooper

    @becca: you are right. I’ve seen teams just quit, and our guys haven’t done that.

  • scooper

    @PTRF: I have to tell you, it’s been a pleasure chatting with you this season! You’re not too bad for a Yankees fan!

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    Thanks, scoop. I think. ;)

    I’ve really enjoyed the discussions on here. It’s fun talking baseball. I look forward to doing it again next year.

  • Tom B

    @Scooper, Wash your mouth out with a milk shake. PTRF is Family except when he speaks Yankee here.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Evan’s done a great job with this site and it is a lot of fun. Thank you, Evan.

  • becca

    stinking yankees.

  • Peter Spammons

    @ Part Time Rangers Fan
    Mortgage Row is cheering your endeavor on. For, they do indeed need more borrowers with the
    blunt humor but sheer idiotic posture you possess.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    I try to not speak too much “Yankee” here. I didn’t even let you guys know that I was a Yankee fan for the first little while I was coming to this site. I was afraid you’d run me off. Thanks for letting me be a part of your “family”.

  • Tom B

    This scoring stuff is going to get us killed. Can anybody get it stopped?

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Peter: I wish I knew what you just said.

  • becca

    @tom b: talk to RAT. he has some sort of control on the scoring somehow. it’s like magic.

  • scooper

    @PTRF: The DMN blog probably would have run you out of town, but we’re pretty easygoing over here. You can come talk baseball with us any time.

  • DC

    PTRF i doubt he knows either.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Peter: Sorry, I’m a little slow. I just realized you were talking about my joke that I bet the mortgage on the Rangers making the playoffs. Again, sorry. My brain takes a while to process things.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: If you guys were going to run me out of here it would have been on my first or second visit when I couldn’t get my point across about veterans vs. rookies. I still laugh at myself when I think about that. I knew what I wanted to say, but couldn’t get it out in a coherent way. I caused much consternation. Finally, we all figured out we were agreeing with each other.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    Hank didn’t any more foul tip that pitch than I did.

  • Peter Spammons

    @ Part Time Ranger Fan

    No problem. Just having fun. I love the Rangers and my Homerism gets in the way sometimes. All in fun man.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Peter: No problem.

  • scooper

    I think he meant that Hank swung.

  • DC

    Peter = Alan ?

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: Yeah, that might be what the ump was thinking, but usually for a swing he’ll just point at the batter then make the out signal. When you rub one hand across the fingertips of the other it means that it was a foul tip. That’s what he did. Maybe he just made a mistake. I think Hank swung anyway.

  • Ranger Fan

    @PTRF: I remember that night! haha…

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @RF: I may as well have been communicating in Chinese. I couldn’t have confused myself, or anyone else, worse.

  • RAT

    Fun game! Like a roller-coaster, that’s what you get when you watch Rangers baseball.

  • RAT

    Hmmm, on second thought, roller-coaster games are what I get when I watch the Rangers play.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @RAT: Better than getting shut out.

  • scooper

    @PTRF: actually, he made both signals. He first pointed like it was a swing. You don’t do that if it was a foul tip. then, he made the signal like it was a foul tip. Confusing, but I think Hank swung.

  • Ranger Fan

    @PTRF: I can’t even remember exactly what we were debating! But I remember everyone arguing and us all saying the same thing but differently!

  • RAT

    @PTRF: True… But something about being emotionally involved in a game that could be lost after regaining a lead for a third time… Just gets exhausting.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: You’re right. He did point first. Maybe he had a bug on his finger that he was brushing off. That’s what I’m going with.

  • becca

    exhausting and rollercoasters kinda sums up this season. and no, peter, i don’t mean that in a bad way!

  • RAT

    Davis is out for the season.

  • Jack Daddy

    glad i didn’t spend time hanging out on the blog tonight, rough crowd.

    @rain – I believe my point was that this made all the more frustrating by the fact that the Angels aren’t exactly storming into the playoffs. They are doing exactly what we said they needed to do 3 weeks ago, and we just didn’t do our part. But even in spite of that, we COULD have been in this if we had just won 2 or 3 more games in this strech (6-5 instead of 3-8) and 10 days ago none of us would have thought even 6-5 would get this done.

    And when you you look at how the Angels bats have really cooled off, its not unthinkable at all for them to lose 2 of 3 this weekend. When you factor in this game should result in a win, is it inconceivable that we win 4 more in a row? We have already swept TB once at home and that was when they had Kazmir and Pena.

    So, no I don’t think I’m a dumb azz, but rather one of smartest baseball people I know.

    @Peter – I don’t think its tanking to run into a buzz saw (the As are one of the 3 hottest teams in gbaseball and are hitting EVERYTHING) and struggle without over 20% of your offense (including your best player and most dangerous hitter). Finish has been disappointing but I don’t consider it tanking at all. They hit a wall, ran out of gas, slumped at plate, whatever, but they didn’t quit.

    @Evan – this isn’t 1 year of struggling with Rudy J. As you and I have said, much of the struggles this year are probably on account of tighter games and pitchers working harder to always make better pitches. Everytime this offense has faced pressure situations over the 15 year run of Rudy, they have caved (see NYY in 98 and 99). Finally, how much of the “good seasons” were PED enhanced? We know Alex was. We know Raffy was. We are pretty sure Pudge was (come on, we know). We have a decent suspicion Ruben was (though I hope not). His prize pupil GMJ Jr. was. We know Blalock was (hell, Baszik went on record on the air as saying he was). We know Canseco was. You don’t think Julio Franco was? We can go on and on.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @RAT: That’s what makes sports fun. The emotional swings.

    @RF: Yeah, that was funny. I was (past tense?) a moron.

  • Ranger Fan

    Yikes…thta didn’t look good.

  • becca

    jack daddy! shush your mouth about julio! :)

  • Jack Daddy

    @becca -most of the league was, including the pitchers he was facing. he was still one of the best hitters among those hitters, so he was still great in my book. I always liked him better than Pudge and Raffy.

  • scooper

    @JackDaddy: we lost to the Yankees because they had good pitching and we didn’t. No way can you blame those losses on Rudy.

  • scooper

    @JackDaddy: you just refuted your own argument. If everyone was using, no one had an advantage. And you have to already be able to hit for PED’s to help anyway.

  • becca

    i just don’t want to believe my hero might have cheated. i understand it could be a reality, just wearing blinders.

    and the thing about rudy j, if he is let go, how many teams, teams that we face, would scoop him up in a heartbeat? i don’t know that i’d want our pitchers to face that. but that’s just me.

  • scooper

    Nomar has to be OCD.

  • Jack Daddy

    @scooper.

    in 98 and 99, we scored 1 run in each series and batter under .150 one time and under .170 the other. I’ll come back in a minute with their run totals per game – it was not high.

    in 96, we hit (really, it was Juan), but they won because their pen (we blew 2 leads after the 6th inning) – remember that was the year that Rivera was setting up Wettleland.

  • RAT

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention Juan Gonzalez Jack! If we’re tossing names, we’ve gotta drop one of the biggest ones out there.

  • Ranger Fan

    Wow…those looked good.

  • becca

    good c.j. is so much more fun than wheels-off c.j.

  • RAT

    Nice job CJ!

  • scooper

    @becca: when Julio was playing they weren’t against the rules.

  • becca

    @scooper: thanks. i think that makes me feel better?? but to be fair, when i saw him this year, at age 54ish, he looked almost exactly like he did back in his glory days.

  • scooper

    @JackDaddy: are you really going to re-write history and blame Rudy for those playoff losses? IMO, that’s just crazy!

  • Tom B

    Two things are obvious: 1. That Blalock can really hit a baseball 2. CJ is a REAL Major League Pitcher. Quick, look outside! Is there hell fire and brimstone anywhere?

  • Jack Daddy

    in 1998 we lost 2-0, 3-1 and 4-0. Game 3 was 0-0 through 5. So yes their pitching was good, but our pitching didn’t cost us anything and their pitching wasn’t THAT GOOD.

    in 1999 we lost 8-0, 3-1 and 3-0. Game 1 was 1-0 into the bottom of 5th.

    Game 2, we led 1-0 into bottom of 5th.

    Again, pitching didn’t cost us that series.

    Evan can confirm, but I think they are two worst offensive performances (by runs and batting average) in post season history.

    If one good thing comes out of this ownership mess, its that Rudy J isn’t coming back. We’ll have around 15 guys earning close to the league min. on serf status – you think they are going to pay Rudy big $$ wwhen that extra $500K might bring Vizquel back? No way. So long Rudy.

  • RAT

    I doubt Julio did that stuff, but strange things happen. I never thought Raffy would have been one of those people, still kind of suspicious with it all. Oh well, just goes to say, we shouldn’t be looking to professional ballplayers as role models.

  • Tom B

    I think we need a six pak here. And then we also need about six more runs this inning.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: Re: your nomar comment – I found out that he kicks his shoes because when he was younger he would wear his older brother’s spikes that were too big for him. He would have to tap his toes on the ground to get his feet to slide up in the shoes. I don’t have any explanation for pulling on his batting gloves, unless he also wore his brother’s gloves.

  • Jack Daddy

    @RAT – can’t believe I forgot Juan! No doubt. 100% certainty he was juicing. And he is my all time favorite ball player.

  • Ryans Dad

    Perhaps this offseason we could hire Hank Haney to help Kinsler work on his swing!

  • RAT

    @Jack Daddy: Gonzalez was one of my favorites as well…

    Kind of sad how he just fell off the map so quickly.

  • DC

    Rudy needs to go if for no other reason than to get a new voice and approach.

  • Keith M

    Evan, thanks for the link to Reuters article identifying some of the potential owners

    I read where Jim Crane was once named “Top CEO golfer” by Golf Digest. (I’m not sure whether that would be a good or bad thing for us Ranger fans.)

  • jb

    oh, the fong is ringing!

  • becca

    to be fair, hero and role model for me as a 4th grader was totally different. i wanted to grow up to be sandra day o’connor. and play 2nd base like julio. totally different!

  • Ryans Dad

    That’s wild Becca, that was my dream too!

  • Ryans Dad

    Who is it JB?

  • becca

    then ryan’s mom is a lucky lucky lady!

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Ryan’s Dad: Lol

  • Jack Daddy

    Re/ Rudy J – putting all the opinion aside and for the sake of argument, let’s assume that he is indeed the greatest hitting coach alive and the greatest hitting coach in history. So what. THESE hitters are not responding to him and getting the message through. That is enough for me. So what if Mike Young is his guy. That’s 1 guy. Nelson, Davis, Hamilton, Andrus, Borbon, Salty, TT – none of them are Rudy deciples. Yes, Byrd is but Byrd will be gone in 2 weeks. I don’t know what to make of Murphy – he seemed to fight out of the slump, but at the same time only Nolan Ryan and Jon Daniels seem to be in his corner.

    Is Kinsler a Rudy guy? I don’t know. Either way, his approach has gone to the crapper.

    So again, why not bring in the voice these guys have been listening to for the last 3 years in the minors? They are not getting Rudy’s message. Finally, why can’t we admit that Wash’ philosophy and Rudy’s philosophy DON’T MESH.

  • scooper

    Forgive me, Jack Daddy. I forgot that you are always right. I don’t know why I even think about posting a dissenting opinion.

  • RAT

    Cruz made a catch!

  • Buck

    Julio had to be on the juice. Did you ever see those popeye-esque forearms.

    The Rudy decision is a tough one. His track record is excellent with the exception of this year. I am not in favor of tossing a guy for one down year especially with all of the youth on the roster. However, I do see a disconnect in a small-ball approach and the approach our players took at the plate this year. The Rangers had patience at times but there many times during the drought where the hitters would swing for the fences in strikeout or flyout. Situational hitting was really not a strength and you have to ask yourself … should it more developed and ingrained in the system.

    I also question Wash’s use of pitchers in Sept. the 6th innings killed us. We have the expanded roster so why didn’t we use all of the available arms in a pennant race? Case in point, why wasn’t Hunter pulled earlier tonight?

  • jb

    @Ryans Dad: Michael Trabtree

  • becca

    buck, his forarms are still spinach-induced-looking.

  • Ryans Dad

    @Buck, Wash was merely carrying out the wishes of upper management to challenge the pitchers to give “one more inning”. I wonder if that tagline will accompany next years’ team?

  • Ryans Dad

    Ohhhh, what a DAY!

  • Tom B

    I don’t like the way this game is shaping up.

  • jb

    i think we need a russian overlord that made his fortune in nickel mining to buy the team

    The Texas Cosmonauts?

  • Ryans Dad

    That does beg the question, did “one more inning” work for this team this year? Thoughts?

  • Peter Spammons

    The DMN Rangers blog at one time was excellent. Unfortunately, it is nothing more than a place for one to spew verbal graffiti. Richard really was doing a great job despite limited resources, but he is now gone. Dmag. is the new wave of electronic media.

  • RAT

    My opinion on Rudy (near worthless) is that he lost a lot of say when he left the Rangers for that extended amount of time last year. Something to do with his leg?

    Whatever the case, there’s an obvious disconnect in communication somewhere between the hitters and their coach.

    If I were given the choice, I’d probably let Jaramillo go, probably time to get a new approach for the younger generation of hitters that’s coming in.

  • Ranger Fan

    I’d put Franky in. CJ has a lot of pitches…he did hos job. ANd Kennedy is a killer…

  • becca

    i think one more inning worked early. later on, probably not as much. but how nice was it to not hit the bullpen by the 4th inning for the majority of the year? i think it had it’s flaws, but if it’s known that’s what’s expected, maybe next year it won’t be as much of an issue?

  • Ryans Dad

    Another good point from RAT, there has been a change in approach from teams since the PED era, has the Rangers approach changed with the times, or has it become a relic from days past?

  • Ranger Fan

    Alert: Pudge is calling for soft stuff again…this doesn’t end well usually!

  • Buck

    @becca: Nice! I don’t think Julio didn’t eat spinach to get those forearm though.

    I loved watching Julio take batting practice – line drives all over the field. He was a great hitter and he played hard.

  • jb

    game mvp = hb

    goin out on a limb here…

  • Tom B

    CJ is way over his limit on pitches this inning and Wash is trying to ride him through. It could get bad.

  • DC

    Other than MY is there a hitter thats better today than when they came up?

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    I think the more you pitch the more you’re able to pitch. It probably wore down the pitchers as the year went on because they weren’t used to it, but as they do it year after year they will be more conditioned to it. Start it in the minors and build them up.

  • Ryans Dad

    @Becca, did the heavy use early in the year lead to the demise later in the year?

  • Jack Daddy

    @scooper – I’m not saying I’m right that Rudy should go – (there probably isn’t a right answer). My main point with you was that it was our offense not pitching that cost us 98 and 99. I have been frustrated for 10 years hearing people say the Rangers will never win because of pitching. Drives me nuts is all.

    I won’t call you wrong for saying that Rudy isn’t the problem now. Its just opinion and I like all viewpoints. Sorry if I came across differently.

    Re/ 1996 – want to heartbroken again? Look at how we could have/should have won these games. I had forgotten Game 2 went 12 innings.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1996_ALDS2.shtml

  • Tom B

    Can Frankie save it?

  • RAT

    Julio ate seaweed… or something haha, I just know he had a wild workout/diet regimen after coming back from Japan.

  • Peter Spammons

    Cincy is rumored to be interested in shopping Brandon Phillips during the the upcoming off season. If the Rangers were to trade Ian would Phillips interest anyone? A second baseman with power for a second baseman with power… sometimes a change does wonders.

  • scooper

    You can only get “1 more inning” if they are actually pitching well. Early in they year, it worked. For whatever reason, we haven’t gotten that “1 more inning” for the last couple of months. It is a good mindset to have, but “1 more inning” goes hand in hand with being more efficient with your pitches. When pitchers don’t have good command, they throw more pitches and don’t pitch as deeply in the game.

  • Buck

    @Ryan’s Dad: Yes, I know … but Geez aren’t we in it to win it? I like the approach up until August but he had to see the pattern of struggling 6th innings??

    I bet if you go back and look at the ERA of our 6th innings alone in the month of Sept I bet it would be greater than 9.00.

    I have Microsoft Excel but not the motivation to justify my comments.

  • becca

    yeah, i think the early heavy use made them hit a wall. but like PTRF said, if they realize that’s how it’s played in arlington, they can adapt. i hope, at least.

  • Ryans Dad

    Eww, I don’t know about that PTRF, the more you pitch, the more wear and tear you do to your arm. Eventually your arm will go dead and hitting spots becomes a chore.

  • Jack Daddy

    @scooper – also, you have some of my favorite opinions on here.

  • becca

    nelly just made two great catches. too bad he couldn’t follow that up with a hit.

    so frankie’s coming in, right?

  • Ryans Dad

    There is a reason that MLB teams don’t use pitchers much more than 100 pitches, especially early in the season. What made the Rangers think they could try that with Millwood? What do they know that nobody else does?

  • Jack Daddy

    I am going to reserve opinion on the use/over use of our starters until next year. I don’t feel like I can make an opinion. Particularly, when I think most of this is attibutable to the As swinging hot bats.

    I don’t think Holland is tired. I think he’s a rookie. Millwood had looked gassed, but doesn’t he look that way every hot summer? Hunter has thrown a career high in innings.

    Feldman was kept on shorter leash and is thriving, so that cuts the other way. Who knows? But getting that extra 2-3 outs definitely saved us from the weak spot in our pen in the first half and bought us 5-7 Ws in my opinion. Is it costing us now? Maybe. Maybe not.

  • Buck

    Ownership situation is a bit of a bummer.

    Can’t stop thinking about the off-season changes.

    Benoit and Hurley will be back but we have a lot of guys that should go to arbitration – a lot of good guys that I don’t think the Rangers can afford to lose.

    Byrd would be signed again, I’m convinced but with no money in the bank .. he’s gone.

    If Byrd walks, then Murphy stays. If Bryd is signed Murphy is gone.

  • DC

    Rangers are second in the league in homers and strikeouts but 12th in walks and average.Thats not what you would expect with the walks.

  • Ranger Fan
  • RAT

    Wash obviously learned something with this defensive alignment.

    That’s the promise of Wash! He’s learning!

  • scooper

    @JackDaddy: OK. I’m sorry for being a jerk.

    @all: I don’t have the motivation to research this, but I’ll bet that if you add up pitches and innings, none of our pitchers have been overworked. I don’t know what Millwood’s excuse is, but the rest of the guys are young and still learning to pitch in the big leagues (yes, even Feldman). I would be willing to bet that they will all be better next year.

  • Buck

    As Jack Daddy has always said, Nellie is a five tool guy.

  • becca

    norm was talking about that on the ticket today. the 100 pitch count is a fairly new phenomenon, only really used since they moved to a 5 man rotation. if a pitcher is pitching efficiently and hitting his spots, the pitch count shouldn’t matter too much, as it would automatically mean that the minimum number of pitches would have been used to get through the 5th or 6th inning for the starter. which i think was the maddux philosophy – pitch smarter and more efficiently.

  • Tom B

    Look at Wash’s defensive subs. He really wants to win THIS game. Kins in, Visquel to 3rd, C Davis to 1st. Frankie to close.

  • becca

    p.s. i don’t spell check

  • Buck

    @Tom B: Wash is definitely learning. In a few years, he will be a good manager.

  • RAT

    @Buck: That line made me laugh.

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @Ryan’s Dad: You’re correct that when your arm gets tired you start losing location. My point is that back when pitchers didn’t have pitch counts they were able to go a lot longer in games with success. As time has gone on, and salaries have risen, teams are more cautious with arms. They want to “protect” the pitchers arms. I am of the belief that that “protection” is actually doing more damage than good. Pitchers get in these minor league systems and they limit their innings. Their arms get conditioned to only be able to throw a certain number of pitches/innings and then the fatigue sets in.

    Now, I will admit I’m not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. And, this is just my opinion.

  • scooper

    @becca: I agree. When most people hear “1 more inning,” they think it means throw more pitches. They want the pitchers to go deeper in games with the same number of pitches (basically).

  • RAT

    Nice finish.

  • Ranger Fan

    Ballgame! Good relief pitching today!

  • becca

    ball game! not too shabby.

  • Tom B

    Game Time! Big W

  • Buck

    The ‘pen came through!!!

  • Ryans Dad

    TAG explained the one more inning this way, if you get in a jam in the 4th inning, don’t be looking toward the bullpen to get you out of the mess. They won’t be there. It is an effort to set up the bullpen to work the 7,8,&9th innings only. Nowhere in that explanation did they mention a pitch count.

  • Ryans Dad

    And then it was 6

  • Tom B

    @Evan, The Comment Count is back up. Just let a Capitalist welcome all of you Commies.

  • Peter Spammons

    Rangers seem to win more when Ian is not in the line-up. Ian called out the very fans in which help to pay his bloated salary. Trade him for a player who respects the fan base.

  • Buck

    I don’t know why the Rangers’ pitched seem to struggle in the 6th inning in Sept. Fatigue … overuse … pressure… youth .. I just don’t know.

    However, I do know if your pitcher is getting pounded in a close game and the team has a chance at a pennant, you don’t pull any punches. they had 5 months to pitch into the 6th to save the bullpen. It just seems that it would be OK to deviate from the philosophy to win when wins were needed.

  • becca

    it was fun, even if peter told me i’m essentially a chump for the faith going against all of god’s maths and all that. happy baseball to you all and good night.

  • Ryans Dad

    Relax Pedro, Ian is just coming into his role on this team. He took a bad approach to get fans to the ballpark. Not unlike Romo’s comments after the Eagles game last year. He will adjust his views and be smarter in interviews because of this experience. Now let’s hope he can level out his swing next year.

  • Ryans Dad

    LOL @ Becca, goodnight “chump”

  • Part Time Rangers Fan

    @scooper: Just a quick look at the innings pitched shows that you are right. None of the pitchers have been over-used. Only two have more than 127 IP (Millwood 182.2 & Feldman 176.2). That’s not a ton of innings.

  • Tom B

    Hunter got a GIFT win tonight. It probably makes up for some well pitched games he ended up losing or NO Decisioned in the past.
    He needs to get 10 wins. It looks and sounds better.

  • Buck

    I am not a big Millwood fan, but it would have been nice for Milly to get some run support when he pitched. Hunter did indeed get a gift tonight.

  • Buck

    I’m out for tonight. Good game. I wished I had a chance to catch a game out here in NoCal. Can’t wait to get back to Texas!!!

    Lot’s of good baseball left to play!!!

  • Peter Spammons

    @Evan, I have heard rumblings that the very same management who owns the Oklahoma City Thunder(Dorchester Capital Corp./Professional Basketball Club. LLC) is eying the Rangers franchise. Could this team inevitably end up in OKC two years from now. Clayton Bennett has serious money and the ability to lure OKC to build an retractable roof stadium. Furthermore, many Ranger fans reside in Oklahoma.

  • scooper

    @PTRF: thanks!

  • Peter Spammons

    when walking up the steps of prosperity, always remember that a catastrophic plunge is following behind you.

  • Tom B

    Was there more of a sense of urgency in the game management by Wash? I’m sure this was no more different than the other 150 games or so. I would be remiss if I didn’t acknowledge the appropriate moves by Wash and the deft handling of Pitching changes, Defensive allignments, etc… He did not tarry with O’Day when he was not getting effective results. I won’t take issue with him on using Nippert for one man versus another inning but Hunter forced a move he usually wouldn’t make. He got Hunter out of there when (Maybe long after) it was obvious he didn’t have his best stuff. Five pitchers is a bunch but the skin is on the wall and that counts for a lot. CJ Wilson was his usual 2 pack reliever but he struckout the guys he needed to dispose of just as only CJ can do after nibbling, fiddling and throwing too many pitches. I keep racking my brain to remember when the game management by Wash was more in sync with conventional wisdom. Either the guy is getting it or I haven’t been giving nearly enough credit in past efforts. The defensive alignment for the ninth was one more thing that he did more like a NL Manager than usual. He put the best gloves in the most likely places to do the best job. The result was a ‘W.’ Was #83 more important than some previous opportunity possibly squandered? I’m not sure but he seems to have picked up a sense of urgency for one night or forever but in either case it is a welcome paradigm shift for future success. I think the MAN did GOOD!